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This video was brought to you by Steinberg a better world planner Mr Green Camp power and Marcus Beale Yo what's up in this video I'm going to Show you guys the starting session of The Audi Q8 e-tron 55 it's the Branch Banking new fat e-tron how good is it How can I compete against today's uh Competitors like Mercedes like bienware And even Tesla let's find out so right Now uh we will first compare against the Old fat e-tron and you see that to my Big surprise the new etron goes kind of Slow I mean even the the old e-tron was Faster like what the heck is going on Right now by the way to the right here We see car scanner that belongs to the New session so you can see that the Battery was hot enough we have freaking 32 to 38 degrees Celsius prior to yoyo To get it hot enough and we also have This Dynamic charge limit in amps Unfortunately I don't have any kilowatt Numbers here in the car scanner but at Least we see it on the main screen so You see that uh actually the old etron Was charging faster and the new one uh Up until yeah now even you see Uh a little bit surprising that it goes Kind of slow I mean it's it's a it's 20 Bigger battery see that we have 114 Versus 95 kilowatt hour before okay now We start seeing someone Christian now Now finally the fat agent new fat agents
Like oh yeah 150 uh you see you have to Go to past 35 before you start seeing Some good speeds here the the old Electron is kind of hanging there nice And flat but the new one now tries to Hit that 170 kilowatt that is advertised Yeah speaking of advertise by the way uh You see that I say 100 kilowatt hour net Capacity in 114 gross according to this Paper is 106 kilowatt hour but I never Ever managed to get that much out so Real world versus spec I guess well okay We almost miss it we actually never hit 170 kilowatt it was hovering at 168 I Think at the highest and now it's Starting to dropping a little bit but It's a very nice and slow and gentle Drop and now I feel like the new etron Is fast than the old one but just barely And it had that disadvantage in the Beginning so yeah not too impressive I Was hoping to have a 20 nice and flat Rate over the old one you know I was Expecting 165 to 170 kilowatt flat like The old latron but unfortunately that is Not the case I'm not sure what's going On right now and also if you look at the Battery temperature I wonder did I yo-yo Too hard here because it could almost Seem like um there was some kind of Overheating or I don't know I mean Throttling I can show you guys once we Look at the graph here but uh maybe the Battery doesn't like to be 50 degrees
Celsius and also my big surprise there Is a quite big gap between Min and Max Temper I believe for the longest time That uh Audi had good engineering and That they had almost no gap between Min And Max but you see that there's a an 8 Degree celsius Delta between Min and Max That is not ideal to avoid Colgate and Then replicate in the same session you Want to have very low Delta I should Check out Tesla because I've seen it Before the Tesla has only one degree Celsius Delta between Min and Max or you Know what actually maybe this is the Case for the old electron maybe the old Latron had a very narrow Delta but here Eight degrees Celsius Delta That is kind of big okay now it starts Rotting a little bit but okay the the Old etron uh of course has a smaller Battery so it naturally it will finish Faster but of course also the fact that The old e-tron actually had Um a small it had higher charging rate And a higher C rating that's why it is Actually ahead right now yeah I saw There was like a little flush there Because actually the old e-tron after About half an hour even tried to shut Down the car but at least the new one Stays on all the time so that's good There's some small Improvement there Some push button going on okay the old Neutron hit 90 first and then the new
Etron is uh kind of behind yeah but in Terms of energy it should maybe be the Same yeah actually maybe even bit better But I don't have any energy numbers on The on the electron on this session but You will also see that the old electron Also goes fairly fast to 100 this is Even after the the update where you they Unlock more energy you have 86 kilowatt Hour instead of 83 in the old days so Actually in the old days the the e-tron Charge even faster to 100 but you can See now that the old electron goes kind Of slow towards the end as expected But still faster than the new e-tron so Yeah this is now now the new e-tron hit 90 that took a while man wow what the Heck so I guess I'll just wait and see Like how long will it take for these two To hit nine not to need 100 because Traditionally I've seen it right many Many years ago money money each one Owners they will charge you 100 it was Going quite fast I remember I think even At 99 it was taking like uh 50 was it 50 Kilowatt or maybe 60 kilowatt it was but That was because it had a buffer but you Got to see uh speaking of buffer by the Way uh let me see uh yeah the the new The old electron is about to hit 100 but You see it goes kind of slow towards now It finished Um you will see that if you look at car Scanner again you see that we have state
Of charge display and then true status Charge so um you will see at 100 we will Actually not have 300 so it's like it Has a top buffer and I think it will be Well we'll see you soon I think it's Around 96 through the charge so there's A little top buffer uh why do they have This well maybe to conserve the battery To avoid too much degradation to have Maybe yeah you will have some region Once you start driving stuff like that So and also of course it will have nice And Char nice fairly nice and flat Charging curve to 100 but actually at This moment it's not going that fast Compared to the competition I feel Almost like the other Germans and even Tesla goes almost as fast to 100 percent Hmm well okay we'll just wait and see That we wait a little bit more we just Want to see once it hit 100 but you can See that it takes actually quite a long Time to hit 100 with the new fat e-tron So I guess The new fat e-tron is more like other Cars that you probably just want to go To 90 100 takes too long but wait what Is the point in the new etron then if You can just get the old electron and it Goes uh faster to 90 or maybe even to 100 by the time this one it's 90 right Hmm yeah okay let's wait wait okay we Have to see this we have to see these Ones it is 100 it's about to happen soon
But there you go you can see that we Actually have 96 and also the the charge Energy that one also seems to be fairly Good actually it's a little bit Under Reporting sometimes it's it's supposed To be 100 kilowatt hours it seems like Car scanner might be a little bit Pessimistic but there okay it finished But that took some time and here you see The joining curve that uh you see the New etron for some reason it's starting Slower than the old one and remember we Had nice and hot temperature in the Battery so this is a little bit Disappointing but at one point okay it Goes faster but it should it should Actually be like like in my opinion or In what I thought was that it would be Like here you know zip like this and Then slowly go up as the as the voltage Goes up because it seems to like this Fat e-tron has a current maximum current Of 400 390 amps only so that's a little bit Disappointing because all the other Germans like you know BMV and and Mercedes they can go flat 200 or close To 200 at the bottom because they can Allow 500 amp but this one for some Reason the Audi Engineers they just Figured out that look at 390 amp seems To be enough out to be enough just like 640 K of ram I guess but look here this Dip here is this natural throttling or
Is it uh like uh thermal throttling also This one this is the I wonder I suspect Maybe this is a some kind of thermal Clothing because it's very when you have Something like this it's mostly or it's Likely that it's just struggling because Of a higher standard charge but here When you have a dip like this and then Especially when it goes quite Significantly up that could indicate That there's a thermal throttling so Maybe I yo-yo a little bit too hard uh I Will see I will show you in another Session with the new each or not it Doesn't have this thermal dip here but Okay so yeah I was just hoping for this Blue line to be shifted further up with The with the versus the red line but it Was not the case unfortunately and Actually towards the end it goes even Slower than new each one Oh where's the force And then the next one here we actually Test the cold or the cold battery test So I tested against a plug and also Model Y and you see that okay the Teslas They start with with the slightly warmer Temperature but they actually at least The plant goes faster than the fat E-tron wow that is very impressive look At that fat Adrian goes kind of slow Because I guess the battery was cold but Then the test allowed higher higher Speed at lower temperature very
Impressive but then the model Y is going Kind of slow but also even the model y Goes faster than the fat e-tron so um You will notice something else here that Okay they they start at roughly the same Temperature but you see that the blood Has way higher temperature than the the Fat e-tron and that's because the fact Itron has a six kilowatt battery heater Where's the plug uses triple Motors plus Heat pump so I estimated I don't know How the cop value for the heat pump is But I estimated the flood has probably Something like maybe 16 to 18 kilowatt Of battery heating power versus six Kilowatt on the fat eatron but y on the Other hand you can see the front and Rear power they are active right now so They're pulling 5.5 kilowatt plus heat Pump I'm not sure how much that one is But also the model Y is charging fast I Mean it's a heating up fast and you can See that the temperature in the model y Battery is higher than the fatron so the Fatron is kind of slow and okay you have To also consider that the fat eatron has A bigger I mean it has more mass on the Battery so of course naturally it takes Longer to hit that big fat battery but Look now oh yeah the e-tron's like oh no I just don't I don't want to be schooled By some American Silicon Valley I want To be a car manufacturer here so now the Fat Adrian is talking about to take some
Revenge here Once we hit around 20 25 degrees Celsius In the battery the fat eatron starts Picking up speed because now the fat Eason is in the more optimal uh state or At least in the temperature whereas Tesla has reached some point where it Starts throttling naturally because it Yeah it should throttle it doesn't want To go too fast too long too high state Of charge so now Tesla is going kind of Slow both of them especially model y has A smaller battery and also another thing We can pay attention to is the the Charge energy the one in in pink or yeah What they were here you see that Tesla Had a quite big lead in the in the Energy but you should mentioned that the E-tron started with slightly more energy Than the than Tesla because of more Buffer but still now the the fat eatron Is about to gain on the plot but it Takes a while and you see that if this Was a race yeah I mean Tesla maybe only Need to charge you 60 70 they could just Hammer to the next charging stop uh so We also have to bear in mind not that The Teslas they are way more efficient Than fat eatron so we are looking at Percentage but this is a charting test So that's why I look at percentage but Yeah the fatron is just gaining more Momentum now but it seems like it starts Flattening out a little bit but still
Very very impressive this is a really Nice combat that you can actually charge At 100 and 135 kilowatt at almost 70 Percent where look at Tesla Tesla is Down to only 80 kilowatt or 70 kilowatt At the similar state of charge but I Guess that's usually how batteries Should be charged for the best health Maybe I'm not sure I guess that Discussion will be in the comment Section after the video is done but Right now you can see that the e-tron Fat etron in kilowatt hour is actually Ahead of both Teslas oh yeah Would you ever thought that it had that Slow start of at Eaton but now it has a Great comeback it's about to hit the Other it now it gained the blood eaten And blood they are at 79 both of them Wow and then the model Y is slightly Behind and in in terms of kilowatt hour Is ahead but now okay even the fatron is To slow down a little bit but at 80 Percent or 82 percent it takes 93 Kilowatt yeah the German is showing Muscles like this is how you're supposed To do it yeah yeah and then the Tesla Says oh no we have to charge only 50 Kilowatts here because we had 80 so um Wait is is the fat eating gonna win oh The fat eatron is gonna win well unless There's something weird going on towards The end who knows maybe some kind of Koreans yesterday at this point in fact
Atron will win to 90 percent wow look at This it doesn't matter that it goes kind Of slow in the beginning as long as you Have enough Cobalt in the battery you Can have a great comeback and this is What the fat each on the German show That these newcomers from Silicon Valley They can just go home there you go wait There 90 but it don't finish before the Two Tesla the two tests I was like oh no Wow 88. about 89 kilowatts that number Is slightly underreported by the way the The energy it's slightly more it's about Um two kilowatts or more at least uh but Yeah so now we're just waiting for the Teslas to hit 90 there they hit 90 Profit at the same time And now we compare so this is actually It's a long-range Palladium uh not the Not the Plaid but plant had a slightly Weird charging session but okay so this Is a normal hot session on the Tesla and Then let me see here we have the coal Session and you see that the test launch Is started faster than the this is this Is the cold fat eatron you see you see Tesla had a huge leader like if the Fatron was going quite quite slow but it Slowly built up more it must be and then If you look at okay we have to look at The blue line versus the the yellow line Those two sessions I just included the Normal sessions to to compare but you See here that it was actually able to
Recover by slowly heating up the battery And then get a nice and flat charging Curve and there's this dip it seems like You see this dip here also occurs with The hot session of the fat itron so it's Probably not a thermal dip I'm guessing It's just a I don't know a charging Curve dip but here by the way you see That we don't have that drop that I Talked about earlier here it has a more Gentle drop like it should be so I Suspect that with that hot session or The fat e-tron it was it was probably Throttling because of thermal yeah Naturally because in the cold session it Was not over hot so it had better Temperatures they managed to do that but Yeah and then whereas for Tesla's Case By the way another thing I should notice Is a point is that it seems to be Slightly slower here but also when I Tested the hot session on the plug there Was something weird with the Plaid it Seems to charge slower so this is a long Range by the way so actually in the best Case would be to use maybe another plant Which has better session or I mean Updated software or something I don't Know but whatever so I'm showing you Guys the differences that the Audi E-tron is really the Colgate King even You if you start with cold battery it Will kick ass for the Lord oh so you see We have now tested the fat e-tron new
One versus all and also done a cold test So the fat Eaton did it really really Well but how does it put up against the Competitors so I'm gonna do a big Showdown that much right now between we Have now in the top left corner big fat E-tron with 114 kilowatt hour in the top Right corner we have Tesla Model S Eventually it could be a model X also Palladium with 100 kilowatt hour and Then in the bottom right corner we have A Mercedes eqs eventually it could be an Equals SUV to have the same battery and Then in the bottom right corner we have BMV IX oh yeah The Clash of the Titans The Epic match all right are you guys Ready to rumble let's go okay so first Let's eat one start with an error Message okay that's fine that's Audi and Then look there and it starts kind of Slow Tesla on the other hand wow look at That 247 kilowatt oh yeah it costs 200 Kilowatt is pumping in 500 amp IX also It's like oh yeah I'm also gonna take 500 but the voltage and The IX is Slightly lower than the equals that's Why the IX charges are only 190 Kilowatts they cheat they go over 500 I'm just taking 580 amp its Tesla is now Pumping in 250 kilowatts each on the Other hand there's ah we're gonna take 140 kilowatts yeah don't worry don't Worry all right back to uh eqs eqs it's Still pumping in 500 nice and flat look
At the bottom look at the bottom two Cars eqs and IX they're taking 500 amp Flat Tesla starts shutting down but Tesla has reached 38 39 it's incredible How fast Tesla shot at the bottom and by The way Tesla is also the most efficient Car in this comparison look at etron now E-tron starts gaining a little bit of Momentum he's building up oh yeah you Guys remember it now the e-tron's gun Tried to catch the other ones uh but It's starting at 156 kilowatts the other Ones they are way higher like a Tesla is At 48 is taking 150 kilowatts and then Eqs is also joining fast everyone is Joining faster and they're fat eating Right now this is unfair much IX also Wow they are so far ahead wait what the Heck look at the percentage here look at That look at the green green green Green Boxes 55 of Model S uh first place Second place eqs Is second place and then equals his Third and then the e-tron is oh okay Etron is lost oh no oh no oh wait what's Going on here Tesla starts throttling oh Yeah Tesla doesn't like to charge too Fast at the highest charge at 60 it Starts throttling so now now now now the Germans are coming and each one is now Taking 167 kilowatt that is Peak number 168 kilowatt is Big these are your Eitron has not given up yet it is going To show some flexible muscles right now
It's taking some nice flat charging Curve look at that e-tron is actually Charging faster than the competitors Right now at this stereo chart at 60 the Other ones they start throttling Especially Tesla is going quite slow Compared to the the Germans and now what A man there's so much stuff going on Who's leading Tesla is still leading but It doesn't have that massive lead from The 250 kilowatt burst in the beginning But eqs is on a good second whether wait A minute wait a minute e-tron is about To catch eqs oh e-tron is on the Second now what the heck is going on Etron is gaining on the two other Germans wow e-tron takes the second Place right now the the two bottom Germans they are behind oh no the Jordan's North in fact Ethan has a nice And flat turning curve but will it be Enough to catch Model S because but Let's still has a huge lead it's about To hit 80 the Germans are still at the 70-something percent or no oh it goes Kind of slow now it's like it's like the Turtle versus the rabbit isn't it oh Wait look at that oh no no no no no no Eaton start throttling also now Eaton Also hit that that breakpoint where it Starts throttling But unless it's still in the lead eqs is About to oh look at what's going on with You guys now ecosystem I'm not gonna let
Them be school by some Audis the eqs now Has a nice and flat core look at that at 82 it takes 93 kilowatts it's way above Everyone last right now eqs takes the Second place again e-tron is on the Third again oh no IX is falling behind Oh no what's going on there but Model S Is going to slower and slower it's Taking only 55 kilowatt look at that Compared to the Germans the Germans are Pumping in 70 to 80 kilowatt they're Gonna School the Tesla right now they'll Be like ah Tesla you come back here We're gonna beat you oh yeah look at That equest is right on power but less Right now but let's just barely ahead Come on come on what's going to go Happen now Eaton is also coming in fast Oh wait wait wait wait what's going on IX is coming not suddenly The IX is like Ah no no no you guys come back here We're gonna pump in some nice kilowatts Here while the other guys are drawing Slow but let's hit 100 and hit 90 first But it happened so fast now what the Heck happened there wait they all hit 90 Almost at the same time and IX is coming In fast bonus run we're gonna go to 100 Which car will go to 100 let's keep Hammering oh well that's still ahead Look at that it's at 93 kilowatts sorry 93 now it's only at 35 kilowatt but more Or less has the smallest battery but Remember the models is also the model X
Eventually will have the the best Efficiencies so in terms of range then These cars should have quite similar Range yeah That's why we compare against them okay Well there's so much stuff going on Right now all of them are 94 what the Heck oh but wait wait which car Chinese Lowest but unless it's charges as low as Look at the IX IX is pumping in 64 Kilowatt at 96 stop cheating bamvis stop Cheating all the other guys are charging At only half the speed that's you what Is going on now are you trying to kill The battery huh what the heck man you Don't have that much top buffer Wait wait which car is going to hit 90 They're almost at 97 all that look at That there's it's so even racer model as It's at 97 equals is that the seven Percent and the neutron is also gonna Hit 97 there but the iron is that 99 What the heck IX just took the wait they Just IX just Hammer all of them just Came out from nowhere and IX the BMS Shows you who is the ultimate charging Machine it's the bamware wait which car Is going to hit 100 they're almost there 98 98 98 oh which car is going to Win which car is going to win this is The Battle of the century oh wait wait But IX takes forever now I've been Camping at 99 for a long time and then Tesla is also good I gave up on Tesla
Yeah it's Tesla stopped there so we Don't have any good numbers on Tesla now It's just the battle of the the Germans Right now which car will hit 100 first Is going at 33 way faster than the two Other ones to the left and right now it Could seem like wait what the heck what Takes so long with the IX I has been Camping at 99 for a long time now what The heck come on finish finish come on Oh the equals went from 98 to 100 the Equestrated equals like I'm done I'm Done we're done we are done what the Heck man in the true speed of Germans The EQ has cheated and now we are just Looking to see if the IX or the e-tron Will win both of them are charging dog Slow right now there each one Etron came on second And then IX is still pumping in Wow we don't know where the model S or The model X would be so maybe next time I will actually go to 100 to see how it Goes but I know that Tesla will take Forever to hit 100 eventually because it Actually goes to 100 whereas the other Germans they have a little top buffer Yeah so that's why they they usually Finished there there So here we see the Jordan crew and Tesla Just roof takes that lead nice lead but You see already at around 40 the Teslas They go the Tesla goes slower than the Other ones so the Germans they then do
What they do best which is to have a Nice and flat charting curve and then This is more typical charting curve that You'll find in most other cars but the Germans they just want to do things Differently and go slow in the beginning And then fast towards the end But okay so what else did you see yeah They kind of follow each other a little Bit you see here yeah except for that I Have to say the eqs has the the flat the Nicest and flattest charging curve this Is why I love the equest so much look at This huh versus the intro the problem With eatron I tried this by the way on The 1000 kilometer challenge I tried to Arrive with 40 trying to ride on this Wave it did not happen so it's spoiler Alert yeah you kind of you actually kind Of need to arrive with around 10 to 20 Because the problem is that if you Arrive with 40 the battery will not be Hot enough and then you will actually Kind of call it a little bit so yeah That's the problem so I mean which which Car would you guys choose would you Choose the the Audi curve or would you Choose more like the Tesla or the the Other German car curve yeah so either Way that was one epic battle between the Titans so I just have to go inside and Take a shower right now so that's gonna Be it for now I hope you guys enjoyed This video as always thank you for
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