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This video was brought to you by Steinberg a better world planner Mr Green Camp power and Marcus Beale Yo what's up today I'm going to show you Guys how awesome the ionic 6 is I'm Gonna do a charging battle between ionic Six models 3 and new et5 they are all Sedans they're cost similar but which Car charges the fastest let's see all Right so you see right off the mountain I managed to get only 24 degrees Celsius And Batman so that's why it's not taking Only 189 kilowatt versus 250 kilowatt on Models wow but then once it hits 25 Degrees Celsius on the iron system boom 223 kilowatt oh damn I know this is Coming in hot model 3 start throwing a Little bit 85 is like I'm gonna take 127 Kilos but even though I have 100 Kilowatt hour battery yes okay I only exactly if we hit the next next Battery breakpoint 20 30 degrees Celsius Ionic has this 5 degrees Celsius Increments where it hits and once you Hit the next five then boom okay see That almost 230 kilowatt model 3 starts Falling behind actually I think this is Takes a freaking huge lead now look at That crazy model 3 slows down a lot et5 Is like oh yeah okay we are Chinese we Charge slow yeah and then I own A6 Almost hit 50 now look at that look at That so fast even at 50 184 kilowatt it Goes so fast I can't even speak fast
Enough now and then model three starts Throttling wow look at that bounce rate That is a lot a lot slower than I only Six almost slower than 85 well actually No it's not okay 85 is still the slowest Or not who cares right ionic it's Already at 60 percent look at that speed 177 kilowatt at 60 Jordan's like a Bounce there's no way the other can take Us now More than three just hit 50 barely 85 85 Is like what the heck hasn't even hit 40 Percent what I only six is about to hit 70 even at 70 it takes over 100 look at That 115 kilowatt at 70 insanely fast Month three though how many 60 it goes So slow I don't know what to say about Model three though and those can also Look in the on the pink down there that Kilowatt hour available now is way Higher 96 Model Five model three 85 on The 100 has not hit 50 yet holy grapple Et5 is so long it's so slow now holy Crap wait what the heck what is 85 doing It's doing a batteries of 85 news Cheating man the Chinese people are Cheating they are battery swapping all The other guys like what the heck we are Joining the legal way here this is a Charging battle who the hell no Chinese People they just want to cheat they want The battery swap because that's what They can do they can swap like a boss Okay okay all right fine fine
Et5 swap it has 90 it won okay okay Let's resume back to the button okay Okay get back you're disqualified go Back go back okay let's resume the Battle all right eighty percent I only Still charges look at that look at that Speed oh no oh no I only get that that Korean Siesta at 80 85 82 like every Korean car is getting yes look at the Batteries 52 degrees Celsius it's not Like to be that hot it needs to recover From the heat model 3 is coming in hot But uh I don't know if that's enough Because Okay I only recover from the Siesta it's Not pumping in 115 kilowatt at 85 Insanely fast compared to ball three Model three it's just so slow 85 that Was even slower I don't know what to say man ionic is Gonna take the win look at that almost 90 there is nothing that can beat ionic Right now even close to 90 it still Takes quite decent speed compared to Model 3 and also 85 85 actually has a Fairly flat joining curve it's a Freaking 100 kilowatt hour battery Biggest of their own okay there you go Ionic already hit 90 and just to taunt The rest of the competitors it's gonna Go for 100 well let's see then will I Only hit 100 by the time model 3 or 85 Hit 90 Oh ionic six is just driving a circle
Around the other guys now LOL yeah all Right let's see now well uh model three Just hit 80 but then how what the heck Man wait wait wait look at how fast etv6 Is et5 is charging now 85 is taking 86 Kilowatts nice and flat charging Correlates okay didn't have that fast P At the high peak but still nice and flat Curve Is he gonna catch model 3 though he's Getting closer but it will dip back be Enough look at that model 3 takes only 40 kilowatt 85 is coming in hot now what Oh what the heck is happening with ionic Six now ionic 6 is about to hit 100 Seriously is it gonna hit 100 before the Other guys hit 90 this is insanely Impressive holy macaroni Korea won China Zero uh America's zero oh no wait ionic Six gets double two points because it Not only did it go from to 90 force it Also went to 100 Way Beyond their lives It's like bonus three points oh yeah let Me see All each device coming in 85 started to Gain the model 3. look at that so you See to 90 model 3 and 85 might not be That far or it's the far apart well or Actually what it means is that Tesla Goes pretty quick to about 90 but if It takes long time yeah sorry it's just Lots of stuff going on now ionic six did Not hit 100 before model 3 but it was Just barely though look at that wow
So fast now okay to watch then it goes Kind of slow I think I only six you Probably want to go to around 80 percent Ish 80 85 should be the fastest okay now We're just waiting for 85 to finish Well well but look at that speed though Huh what's 59 kilowatt right before 90 Yeah awesome And also yeah I need to mention Something Um when I charge the ionic six I look at The ionic what the heck The car just decided to turn no no no Get up get up there Bonus question which car am I sitting at Right now Okay but I look at the charging uh how Much the car received from the ioni Charger at the ioni session and then we Look at the kilowatt hour that the the Call report but that's actually Misreported but I know how much it's Supposed to be so I did all the ninja Calculation and it worked out that ionic 6 has 8.5 percent charging loss meaning That you whatever you pull from the Charger you get some losses because There's naturism losses in the battery When it heats up plus there are some Losses or losses that you need to cool Down the battery And then I have some measurement from Tesla earlier that was actually MC Hammer it was a previous generation
Tesla even and that one depending on how Hot the battery was I managed to uh I Measured 8.2 to 9.2 percent loss right Same thing there losses in heating up The battery or maybe sometimes it didn't Need heat to the battery because it was Hot enough but at least losses is cool In the battery and in energy used I mean No energy lost when when cells charge Fast and they generate heat so which Means that a Tesla Model 3 versus an Ionic they have quite similar losses Here roughly 8.5 maybe on average or so Yeah and that means that where is the Advantage of four uh 400 volts versus 800 volt system Okay anyway I have claimed for the Longest time that Yes you have you have maybe losses Somewhere right in the 400 volt system But actually Um in the cabling a 400 volt cable you Can you can decrease the losses by Making a little bit thicker or making Them shorter and if it Tesla is Something uh if if it Tesla is good or Something that is to make the car as Efficient as possible and to organize All the components in the car so you Have minimum losses lower weight and so On so this could be a prime example a Tesla despite having a full 100 volt System has quite low losses compared to An 800 volt system but you still have
The same losses internally in each cell It's just the way you arrange the cells To be 800 Volt or parallel a little bit And then 400 volts bonus battle we have Only six versus model Y and plaid in Cold charging session so this is with Cold battery how fast is the charge oh Look at that Tesla's charge way faster Than ionic oh I only takes only 70 Kilowatts plaid pumping 160 kilowatt and Then even the model y takes 108 kilowatt Really really investment you could also See that Tesla they have more powerful Battery heater it hits at the battery Way faster than I only six ion 6 has Around four ish 45 kilowatt only plaid Actually uses also heat pump and I Imagine it should have something like 18 Kilowatt of battery heating you can see That plug is already at 25 degrees Celsius whereas ionic is only at puny 12 Degrees Celsius oh now we're gonna Have some Tesla dominance here against The Korean And even the model y okay but we see the Model white heats up the battery slower Because it doesn't have three motors to Generate heat but it does also use System the heat pump the heat of the Battery quickly but yes oh damn look at That it takes a long time now the heater And the ionic starts heating up and now Finally when you hit 15 degrees Celsius We hit the first breakpoint 120 kilowatt
Now we're cooking Tesla starts going a Little bit slower now oh oh oh but it's Not going to be enough though then at The Tesla to have a quite massive lead Now compared to the to the ionic six Especially plaid seems to be looking Really good now they're having a great Lead and also three motors should help Big time right You know remember the five degrees Celsius Step At 20 degrees boom 147 Kilowatt 148 in your face Americans or Oh oh the other guys that drives are Driving slower right now and you will See something as ionic six because it Charged a little bit slower in the Beginning it actually can actually allow To have a flat the curve and that's Faster charging session versus another One I can show you guys on the curve Eventually but look at this ionic is Coming in hot now it's going to overtake The model why holy bucket roll me Koreans they just kick back again Wow who would have thought that even you See how much colder the battery is this Must be good for degradation right that It it runs quite cold Tesla they're Pumping in a 50 degree celsius how Unhealthy is that really oh I'm not sure About that but the what is sure is that The ionic six just overtook the model Why I only 6 is going for the blood oh Oh look at that Korean dominance it's
About to hit it's about to over that That's it right guys ionic over took Blood takes only 90 kilowatt right now Model wise that I'm gonna take 72 Yeah it's way ahead of the other guys Now at this point I don't know when If the Tesla will be able to catch ionic Ionic just pumping in like crazy 133 This is what I mean you see it actually It is actually starting faster than when You have a regular hot session oh wait But I only start slowing down a little Bit oh you guys remember the the the Korean Siesta is it going to happen now It usually happens at 82 83 but the Battery is not that hot oh the battery Is already They don't have a siesta because the Ionic does not replicate this time oh it Still goes Snell it's gonna go for the Win is it gonna go for 90 the other guys Haven't even hit 80 yet wow this is Quite embarrassing for Tesla they have Been in the game for a long time making Pure EVS but it's being beaten by the Koreans look at that man is going to Yeah yeah now there's no way Tesla is Going to catch ionic ionic will hit 90 Right about Wow look at that the slow clap to ionic Teslas they'll be like uh okay we're Taking 50 kilowatt I think that's that's Fine yeah no worries it's just gonna Take a little while but we have uh we
Have fart sounds and we have a more Efficient cars than the the Korean so That's how we win on them okay yeah Well but you see that despite having Quite a hot battery 58 degrees Celsius Then it's actually not enough well I Wonder why Teslas go so hot but actually It's not only Tesla I've seen it in Porsche Porsche taikan also goes around 55 degrees Celsius unless you go for the Eco charge which which actually cool Keeps it at around 45 40 45 degrees Celsius and then charges a lot slower Than the taikan yeah is like that so I Wonder how much Tesla hurts the battery By going at almost 60 degrees Celsius Okay well they are about to finish about The same time now but that was a lot Slower than ionic ziggs oh the Tesla Killer actually killed the Tesla this Time The burn and the last thing I've got to Show you are the training sessions here So you see a charting course I mean so You see that I only six starters a Little bit slow because it was actually Colgating and then yeah only with the Korean cars you can get Colgate and Replicate in the same session but look At that nice and flat chocolate but this Is what I've seen also with the Koreans They have this step step step some People say yeah because they are too Lazy checking for enough variables here
You have a more typical gentle curve Where you you constantly check how it's Going and then you um yeah drop the Speed but actually I wonder what the Heck happened with mo3 I think actually The model 3 have a slightly um Replicating even it's supposed to have a More gentle curve here yeah so but at Least nice and flat curve there and not Zoop and then yeah but the ionic six is Just insanely fast but also you see this Is typical Tesla it goes like this Actually which is a more common curve to Have you will see also other cars I Think it was um even the even the Germans Maybe GTX and also ID bus they have something Similar to this one not so flat anymore But here et5 look at this huh nice and Flat charging her well it's just that Maybe it's just being very conservative Because actually this I show you guys This which is kilowatt which is nothing It's not it's not normalized because What we should look at is actually C Rating but we also care about kilowatt But then What what should we look at right Kilowatt uh this is not it's not the Power bank we we don't charge the Battery to discharge them for using at Home charging or something with this Charger for driving so by the end of the Day we actually have to look at kilowatt
Kilometers added or actually in this World kilometers per hour yeah we have To also take in account uh the Efficiency of each car and in that Regard then the Tesla will actually be Higher because it's more efficient but Yeah okay and then I will show you that Further down here We have the charging curve for the Colgate session look look here the plug Is actually really impressive look at This wow it has a nice lead so I guess It depends how far you need to charge But um uh because it typical situation Is that if you have cold battery what You want to do is just charge a little Bit charge to let's say maybe 20 30 and Then you start driving and then by the Time you want a need to charge one more Time and then the battery will be nice And hot so yeah you can say that here Actually the the Hyundai is faster in Case you need to charge it to 90 but Then how common is that case because Like you guys have seen actually when I This is actually a prime example by the Way when I do those um uh those yellow Tests I will only charge a little bit I Don't know if you guys seen it yellow in The morning I will typically just charge For about 10 minutes and then I start Driving And then by the time I need to charge Then the battery will be nice and hot
But okay so then then actually ionic is A bit slow I was expecting ionic to go Faster you know more like Tesla but for Some reason it was quite slow and it was Also recovering quite slow but once it Recovered then it managed to take the Win because they have this nice and flat Charging curve here yeah so the question Is always Ionic or at least the Koreans they have Called the battery but they charge at Higher C rating at higher stereo charge Is that unhealthy versus Tesla That charges more you know the curve That you maybe should charge at right You can go quite fast at the bottom just Like Volkswagen ID bus or id5 right but Then as the higher you go then it's not Healthy it's not healthy to charge at Let's say 2C or 1.5 C at 80 is it so Tesla has the more curve that you should Have but then Tesla charges at almost 60 Degrees Celsius so I want to ask you Guys what do you guys think huh which One is the most like unhealthy or the Least healthy way of doing it hot Battery or high C rating and high steel Yard okay let the discussions begin That's going to be it for now I hope you Guys enjoyed this video as always thank You for watching and talk to you later
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