Toyota bZ4X throttled charging test vs Tesla Model Y

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This video was brought to you by Steinberg a better world planner Mr Green Camp power and Marcus Beale Yo what's up today I'm going to show you Guys a charting session of the Toyota B Set 4X when it's charging normally and Also when it throttle and then we're Going to compare that to a Tesla Okay let's see now so uh you're right in The beginning you see that we take Around 95 kilowatt the reason why it's Not hitting 150 kilowatt as uh stated in The whatever spec is that the battery is Probably not hot enough but it's really Hard to build up heat especially in Winter in those cars because there is no Preheating one thing going on and then In the to the rightmost you have the Model Y is charging like a boss I Actually missed the 250 Kill one it was Charging at 250 kilowatt in the Beginning it went so fast now it's down To 165 already and the reason why I Include model y model 3 here is because Model Y is the best selling EV in Norway This year and then the B set is actually The second most selling EV so these are Kind of you know Crossovers and they are Very top selling in Norway so that's why It makes sense to compare them but look At the pizza now it's actually taking 144 kilowatts it kind of recover from it A little bit and that is even at 35 so Very impressive charging speed when it's

Not throttle yeah I would say man I mean Can we get more of this please and also Can we get some kind of pressure heating Button or something for the B set so we Can see this speed more often but then In a throttle state by the way in the Middle you see that it takes only 38 a 39 kilowatt it's a little bit Moody Sometimes it receives 43 kilowatt maybe When the battery is hotter sometimes it Can even take 60 kilowatt and then it Goes back to 40 kilowatt and then it Goes back to 60 kilowatt again so it's Kind of weird the whole throttle state So I just happen to have a more typical Throttle state in Middle there and then To the left again we see that okay at This point here we hit the 50 something And we are down to about 80 98 kilowatt But look at that compared to Tesla so Actually despite that the bset has a Smaller battery it seems actually that It chartered at relatively good speed When it's not throttle compared to even A bigger battery life model why so yeah And then in the middle not much going on There you see that at least it has a Relatively flat curve in the beginning But then it's going to yeah uh throttle A little bit more even so but also look At the look at the yellow squares there You see the battery temperature model 3 Model y keeps the battery way hotter and Then but at the BS at least in the in

The non-trottle state keeps it at 35 Degrees 35 to 42 and then in the Throttle state it keeps it actually Almost too cold like okay I know they Have that massive 1 million kilometer Warranty so they want to conserve the Battery as much as possible but I think This is a little bit overdoing it right 17 to 27 degrees Celsius it's not that Hot really they could at least have it a Little bit warmer and maybe charge a Little bit faster and I'm just you know Questioning it but also one thing you Will notice that well I don't show it Here but the model 3 the Delta between Min and Max is actually usually around One degree Celsius but you see that in The B set is sometimes even 10 degrees Celsius and this is actually not ideal When you want to charge fast because When the temperature is too low then you Are colgating and then the the battery Or the charging rate is limited by the Coal the cell and then when it gets a Little bit too hot then the hotter cells Limit the maximum charging speed so Ideally you want to have as low Delta as Possible so you can charge as fast as Possible so and this is not unique with A B set the Korean cars they also have Typically actually I've seen up to 12 Degrees Celsius Delta between Min and Max I'm talking about Kia ev6 and ionic 5 there are even modern cars but still

Not that ideal in the in the temperature At least okay and now you see that to The left session the non-trottle session At 80 something happens it goes really Really slow yeah and also you will see That it actually pulls 1.7 kilowatts for Cooling the battery and the way this car Has been designed the Toyota is that Actually the BMS can take let's say Around 14 kilowatts if you add the 12 Kilowatt and the 1.7 kilowatt together But then Um instead of receiving 13 in 14 Kilowatt right it receives only 11 Kilowatt because some of it it's the AC Still some of it instead of that it Should have requested 1.7 kilowatt extra For the AC and then the the battery can Charge at whatever maximum that is you Know and then I was I was about to say Modern EVS they can they can pull extra Power but even a classic ionic from 2016 Will pull extra power so that it doesn't Reduce the already slow charging speed Or something like that but okay so at This point uh the leftmost session goes Kind of slow is pulling a Mach e well at Least before Mark E upgraded updated the Charging curve and then in the middle by The way you see that you see in the Throttle state it goes kind of slow on 40 kilowatt but it goes even slower past 50 and this is like I feel like it's Over protecting the battery like you're

Charging at the what kind of speed is This 0.3 C at 50 percent uh roughly 55 And your and the cells are kept at only 19 to 29 degrees Celsius this is over Protecting the battery really so Yeah I I I'm not a battery expert maybe You guys are yeah of course you guys are So uh maybe someone can tell me uh I Mean what is healthy and what is Unhealthy for the battery I know they Want to conserve the battery life and Everything but um to me it seems it Seems like they're just overprotecting It too much and yeah so everything is Kept too cold and too slow uh but just To make sure that it can last one Million kilometer but um I'm not sure if You ever see one million kilometers on These uh Toyotas because people might Not want to I mean uh how how the heck Are you going to drive one million Kilometers if it charges so slow right Uh yeah I guess if you do the math we Can figure out how how many years it Will actually take to reach 1 million Okay okay well I get got a little bit Deep now but okay and then also uh the 85 86 to the left most session here now Uh it's actually close to 90 in the Ionte screen but this is just the way It's been reported I guess so I kind of Gave up on all the charting sessions There because it was going dog slow There's it's no point to go to 90 with

The the throttle session and here we see The joining curve so let me see uh Toyota the regular one you see okay Maybe if I manage to heat up the battery We will at least get some kind of Flat-ish curve here right and then the Throttles but then because it was cold And very hard to build up the heat in Winter then this is what we got now and Then here is the throttle State really Really slow and I just cut it at 60 and Then I just included the audio well 63 Kilowatt hour similar battery size Because 63 kilowatt hour here is the net Capacity so the gross capacity I believe Is around 70 kilowatt hour which is Actually close to the B set and I Included the audio because this is also A Japanese car and you see here okay the Audio chart is actually slower has a Lower Peak but um way flat the curve so Of course if you would throw the audio In the mix here and the in the charting Battle Maybe audio would even be able to Beat the other ones I'm not sure at Least be able to beat the the other Brother from another mother and then Here we see Tesla is just way faster and Then there's a little deeper so it's Like a thermal dip it should have more Like this kind of curve that sounds a Bit weird okay but um yeah and then some People by the way was wondering hey why Did you why did you charge so often

Doing one thousand kilometer challenge But you can see the answer here Um because the car has so short range Especially in Winter then when you Charge it to 50 you can drive maybe I Don't know it depends how faster drive Also and if you have headwind and all That but at 50 you can probably Drive Let's say around 70 to 100 kilometers Only but then you you shouldn't be Riding on the two slow way so ideally You want to go for around 10 and maybe Charge to roughly I don't know 40 45 Maybe or something like that and then You yeah that's the way to you you ride On the 40 kilowatt wave and sometimes You you get lucky and you get the 60 Kilowatt wave then there then then You're good right and then next one you Get 40 what again so yeah Um but yeah so now you guys have seen it And then by the way this is the the Version now in March and then after May There will be this big update that uh Kind of rules everything yes they're Gonna change a lot of stuff Toyota uh They will increase the the instead of Two charging sessions well actually I Think it's counting kilowatt hours Instead of I don't know uh some people Claim 90 kilowatt hour or something and They're going to roughly double it so Yeah you can then charge a lot more Kilowatt hour over 150 something right

It should be a kilowatt hour before Throttles and then Toyota also says that They're going to increase the charging Speed even when it is in the non-truckle State so yeah I guess I will be making a Retest of it because and also I've been Redoing a 1 000 kilometer challenge Because as of today I have received over 50 000 views on the 1000 kilometer Challenge so that was great yes I live Off views anyway so that's good for me Good business for me and then I will Retest it again and hopefully get lots Of views but I'm not only doing these Reviews I'm doing this because I'm Curious of how it performs and also try To make a little bit of good Entertainment but also just to figure Out how things work and then by the end Of the day I show you guys how the cars Are how good or bad they are and then You can decide whether you want to buy Them or not so that's going to be it for Now I hope you if you guys enjoyed this Video as always thank you for watching And talk to you later

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