VW ID4 GTX 1000 km challenge re-test in 2023

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This video was brought to you by AED Planner cow Marcus be stormberg and B Componente yo what's up we are now Getting ready for yet another 1,000 km Challenge this might be the last one I'm Starting from here next time I do 1,000 Km challenge I'm going to start from yes Him but anyway so we have the id4 GTX This is for mcus be and mcus he rents Out these cars you can rent them for a Whole month for only 9,000 nuke that's Less than 1,000 Huh so you go check it out in the Description but okay so M lend me this Car and I figured uh well it's just an Id4 GTX it's even a poor man's wait you Know there's something wrong with this Car uh because the car is obviously not Locked you can see Here and it's not working and there is No child uh protection thing here Either I can show I had problems on also On this side here Um so what I have to do usually is open This one close it and then yeah so I Normally put is a bell here so okay Whatever uh hopefully it works now on The other Side this is a little bit embarrassing Yeah now it now it works yeah now it Works okay so yeah let me show you so This is not not like the typical press Cars I borrow because they are usually Fully loaded uh this one

Doesn't have the nice seats uh it Doesn't even have electric adjustable Seat just manual seats it doesn't have Auto steer it has a small Screen um and what else is it again that Didn't okay we don't have a panorama Roof here yeah so yeah okay but maybe It's good because it's lighter right and More efficient well except for that it's Going to be cold tonight and I'm going Still going to do Norway route so I will Drive here down to shinon back again and Then this route and then back again and Then North and the rule that I set for myself Is that I have to reach the checkpoint At ruds Huga first and then I can draw a Little back and forth to finish 1,000 km Uh and eventually in the in the future We might be able to drive further down Here uh we'll have Motorway all the way But now it's not like that so yeah you See that the car now estimates that wait How do you do it again um the car Estimates we will arrive at smos with 68% okay this is pretty nice feature and You you can also see that we charging Here we're charging at 15 K going to top Up to 100% And then the car estimates it Will finish in 10 minutes this is very Nice stuff and this is by the way the Same car I tested initially the the Battery capacity uh after 1,400 km Roughly uh the BMS or this is car

Scanner it claims that we have only 72.8 Something kilowatt hours so by the time We finish it should be almost 73 KW hour Yeah and also here this one PTC heater Battery current current so it's current And then based on the voltage you see That it's pulling around 5 KW so the Batter battery heater pulls 5 kW to hit Up this is nice I want the battery to be Nice and warm uh so it doesn't cold gate So this is by the way the all soft all Uh it's the old drivetrain not the new One but at least the battery should Charge at 175 Kow we're going to verify That it should be the same battery as The ID uh bus for example or id5 or Called en I tried but um yeah you're Also wondering why why am I retesting This well because this would be a Baseline for the the future the updated Version with more powerful motor and um Well actually yeah more efficient motor But at least the battery should be the Same in the new one so it's also coming Out soon I will be testing that one but I just want to verify because the two Results we have now in the table of the Id4 they are with the old one that Peaked at only 135 KW so hopefully we Can do it faster the old time was 10 Hour and 35 minutes let's see if we can Do it in 1020 is yeah but it's going to Be cold and it's going to be windy and That means that this car might be a

Little bit thirsty let's find out how Thirsty it can be [Music] Then all the you think is with you it's Just a doorway to the discovery of your Strength [Music] We are now at Leah and this is the best Option we can go for we we came here With around 8% and you see we have these Chargers here that's been here for a While but they recently added some Hyperchargers so okay look here I had to Deduct 5 minutes I had some handshake Problems because first I tried this one It kept failing handshake I don't know Why and but I moved here first time I Tried it worked fine but this one here Seems like they they are a little bit Troublesome this one says out the order Huh okay so we can't blame the car we Have to actually blame the charger yeah Okay and then I'll show you that the Battery is a little bit Cold maybe because it's cold in Wind Side so you see here um I did navigate To the fast charger here but this car uh Coming out in 2023 does not have fast Charging before sorry it doesn't have Preheating before fast charging so we Came here with 19° C and also the battery heater doesn't Fire up so it's actually cold getting Right now we getting only 125

KW LOL uh I was hoping for more but Hopefully it hits up to the point where It goes Faster well well well Wait what the heck I'm back and we have Almost 30° C in the battery now we're Still taking only 120 KW wait there might be something wrong With this Charger uh I'm not Sure yeah uh you know what um there Could be something wrong with this Charger because one plug was Kut yeah Okay so if it turns out that this Charger Kut then we need to calculate How long it's supposed to take if the Charger was not Cut and then we need to correct for that Because yeah if it's a charger problem Then uh that is not the car's fault so Yeah um normally these hyperchargers Should not have any problems but okay so Maybe there's a 375 amp limit for Example that could be a Possibility Yeah okay I want to check something here So you see I run the heater right now Right if I turn off the Heater by doing This Wait need to turn it Off is that going to change the speed Here no sorry that's a voltage I was man I'm Noob there there okay no right there

Right there that didn't affect it okay Okay turn on the heater again and then We can just fire up this one just in Case okay but I brought salad oh look at This oh yeah this is a storb Container And oh remember to ABC always bring Salad oh and then I have some uh in this One so that's that's a salad container And then this one I also brought some Spinach okay I can eat now a little bit All right that was a 20 minute charging Stop but uh I feel like it could have Been a couple of minutes faster if it Was charging faster it wasn't Cating but uh okay so next stop is going To be ringal scan but I will take the Turn around Point first and then go to Ringal scan so I've done the calculation And we shouldn't have enough juice so I Charged 54% just to be sure so yeah now We're down to 46 and see at least the Battery has heated up now so hopefully It stays warm enough for the rest of the Challenge right so we don't cold get Anymore so yeah here we see the Consumption so far 304 wat hour per km Ohly [ __ ] yeah I just bring the passport Just in case I need it I know we drive The Norway route but yeah who knows when We need the oh and I don't have Autos There yeah well well well but at least I Have uh red stitches here yeah uh [Music]

Huh [Music] We are now at I Ringan wait huh wait a minute if you see That that one is kaput you can see it on Light wait that one is Kaput these two seems to be Kut that one Over there is also Kut wait wait how Many how many trium Chargers are Kut Right Now this one is Dark Huh Really out a Cut wait one two let me check Here huh Two Three Four four Chargers I could put okay Whatever there's plenty of charges Anyway right but look this time we get 158 Kow okay the battery was a little Bit warmer this time wait Huh I feel like this battery is charging Slower than the ID bus Battery huh this is a bit Strange okay not anyway okay next stop Is going to be ion D hopefully if I can Make check look look look look at this Wonderful software Search Ionity huh okay wait for it wait for it Okay no no no wait wait I have a bunch Of

L no no no where's I Doll man I I don't like keyboards where The space is here the space should be Down here oh no the screen is not big Enough [ __ ] doll there there I want the do yeah It seems like this car like [ __ ] is it Really 179 km there Really Um okay I'll figure out something I'm Not sure if we go to D or not all right We're back on the road again so yeah That was a 23 minute Charing stop uh and Uh you see here the battery is getting a Little bit hot but it stayed below um 50° C so we don't have any power limits We can still hammer it yeah I can show You guys maybe let me see how many Kilowatt can we get out here Boom oh oh oh oh 230 oh 230 KW oh game Over yeah that's a massive power right There in the GTX actually was 24 minutes yeah Felix Uh CL he donated or he uh uh paid for The Jing session on this one yeah he a Guy on live stream it's a German guy by The way yes probably figured not that by The name but uh yeah so um so far so Good it's freaking storm out there look At that 2.5 de C and it's so windy this Time it's not H it's uh b or something Betin I don't know it's some some female Storm this time man those female storms They are even more violent than the male

Storms yeah or stor B I'm just Kidding we are getting close to drumond And the consumption right now is 315 wat Hour per kilm holy macaroni man what the Heck look at the cruising speed here What the heck man I haven't even been Hammering that hard yeah you guys know That I always Cruise 110 km per hour When I shoot the video yeah of course I Don't go that fast man really I'm no Yol okay but anyway yeah and the car now Claims I will arrive at Cleveland with 1% oh [ __ ] uh we might have to bail out That c okay B okay we'll see we'll see We'll see we have to pass through Oso Soon and that will uh require us to Drive Slow yeah because this uh id4 GTX has Poor drag coefficient of 29 and it's windy outside and it's cold So uh yeah we take the to oh I have to Slow down okay 100 Z okay 100 okay okay [Music] [Music] Oh sheit we are getting close to Cleavage and I have 4% battery left [ __ ] I have power limit I have roughly 50% Not 40% power left and we are still 9.5 Km away the car estimates We R with 0% I Have to drive behind a truck now huh I'm Doing 90 km/ hour in the 100 Zone what The heck man according to car scan I Have 3 kilow hour left The agony of driving electric [ __ ] I'm

Giving some food for the sun now [ __ ] I Charged I I charged for only 24 minutes I should have charged one extra minute And then I would be fine I would hammer It past the police no I'm just Kidding okay um yeah let's get over There I think we have good enough Footage for the sun now to steal from us Yes we made it to the Cleveland Supercharger and there is see a taxi Yeah it's a skoda enak with a charge Port on the right side with the wrong Side should have been left side with the Right side but okay anyway we came here 1% and now we're getting 148 huh wait Wait I'm starting to believe that we are Charging the this battery is charging Slower than the ID bus battery because The ID bus was consistently getting 185 Kwatt I never seen 185 Kow Today uh and also the battery keep cold Gating see here and also the this one The PTC or the battery heater never Fired up anymore uh now is time to fire With the battery heater come on it's Doing some is that Cooling uh no no that's HB wait I'm not Sure what the heck is going on here but All I know is that it's cold outside It's you see that it's 0° yeah or half Degre and it's windy but I'm going to go Over there to the gas station and get Some uh Uh waffles wait wait let me see if I can

Ninja it you see that's pretty cool you Can ninja via the door here you can see All the way to the gas station over There but they have the best waffles Here at Cleavage wow this is so weird because You guys hear that there is not that Much uh road noise and that's because It's a 4 at night and you see E6 is Right here we have 110 so normally in The daytime evening whatever morning Hours this road is packed with traffic And really really Noisy okay over there we have Camp power I don't want to use them because uh they My they are my sponsors and I will be Biased if I use I'm just kidding but Super charges they're dirt cheap they Cost only a little bit over two Nook per Kilowatt hour around 2 cents per Kilowatt Hour yeah a lot lot cheaper than the Other ones except for cuz I because they Kick ass for the Lord but oh yeah I'm Going to show you guys here so you see It's quite windy just look at the flag Holy macaroni the Flag okay I went over to the gas station And unfortunately there were no uh fresh Uh waffles they had some waffles just in The display there and uh they say no it Will take 15 minutes to prepare some Waffles huh wait what about those other Ones there no there not they are not

Fresh what I mean they look more they Look fresher than the C waffles because They are freaking dry well he refused to Sell them to me he said no they are not I said are they can you just can we get This like no no they're not fresh said Yeah that's the quality standard over There at the the eso so I went for some Buns instead yeah okay so we're going to Go for buns but uh we are almost good to Go um so next St is going to be um R Huga that's Wait 127 km away wait okay really yeah So um we are now uh at uh 52% and this Happens every time the battery will heat Up and stay there and the cooling has Stopped the cooling goes on and off a Little bit but this is interesting Because I wonder if Tesla is if FSB can Change something here because now when We are Running hok while we Stationary uh this this one is not Running but you will see yeah sometimes It fires up but it fires Up uh it seems like it's doing this to Cool down the Battery but it's not doing this to heat Up the cabin so I suspect that let me Test something okay 5 it ramps up now Okay if we turn off this one turn off Cabin heater is it going to go to Zero no so it was it's actually it seems Like it's using AC for cooling the

Battery but while we're charging it Using PTC heater to heat up the cabin Which is brilliant it's brilliant if This is true because it means that you Can have heater on without overheating The battery yeah I I think I need to Test this eventually so Hallelujah man Volkswagen huh like I said electric I Mean Dr electric cars they are the Best right we're back on the move again And bonus Material I'm going to check out the the New house so they have recently Installed um Light uh at the garage I I want to see It at night and now it's 4:30 at Night and by the time we come back here Again is going to be uh too bright so uh Yeah uh we need to the duct for The Detour and sh I'm going to calculate I'll just write down some stuff here Yeah So I also live stream want to see this And I bet you guys want to see we have To mix in some some interesting stuff Here because uh driving electric Nowadays is uh way too boring and there Is no challenge there is no Agony there Is no you know it's it's piece of cake Man but we need to feed the sun with Some stuff okay they already got the Material I almost R out the juice oh no Okay now we just going to check out the New house yeah

Okay Taada okay need to show you guys wow it Looks freaking awesome look at the Neighbor can the neighbor that have Three spotlights you can kind of see if I turn the light here you see there but We went for freaking lead bar or lead Strip a continuous oh it looks so Awesome look at this wait is this 4,000 Kelvin I'm not Sure oh no I mean it could be 3,000 kin Not sure sure or 2,700 but okay these bags are a little Bit in the way but the house is almost Finished what is that click click sound But uh yeah So eventually there's going To be some gravel stuff here that is There but look at the lights now okay The ID id4 is lighting up some of that Uh but wow this looks so nice I like it But that is uh nice and bright in our House in front of the house because I'll Be arriving and leaving here at night And evening and stuff but there is Actually lots of light missing here Eventually we're going to fire up the Lights here so in the future you guys Will see this facade a lot but yeah I I'm quite happy with this one the way it Lights up because this is quite Important for me it's in and out is the Garage is my you know it's my man cave Here so wow okay so now I seen it and Then we oh it's cold but we're going to

Show you guys more of that stuff but now We have to continue with the challenge Oh [Music] All the things you think is wrong with You it's just a Doorway to the discovery of your Strength we are now at the RO hug V3 Supercharger uh topping up and yeah Every time we arrive we get a little bit Lower than 26° C we started about a Minute ago and then every time now we Seem to not get 185 KW it's not cold gate obviously the Battery should be hot enough it's just That with this battery you only get Around 140 I don't Know yeah with this car I mean the the This V3 supercharger can provide 500 amp So it's a big mystery why we why we're Not getting um faster speed here it Seems like if you want faster charging Car you should get the id5 because the Id5 charges 185 KW and also you can get SC the enoc which also charger than 185 KW but this one if you buy the id4 you Get uh 140 something Kilow okay anyway so I figured out that Um you see we are currently at 660 Something kilm uh I have to check the Correct uh the correct distance and all That but uh we have Drive roughly three Times um 110 km or we can do 2 *

10 uh 20 something kilm but that's going To take a little bit longer so yeah uh So the plan now is to drive back to I While we will drive a little bit past I 91 K so we drive a little bit past Ionity let me see and then end up there And that's going to be the recipe for The rest of the challenge so over here Do I need to go outside it's it's cold It's 0 degrees celsus and wind let's go Outside for a bit okay need to I need to Just get some fresh air oh man I I Yeah I I'm just so impressed of how how They build up this charging site to have Lots of superchargers coup of high power Chargers near high power chargers and Eon freaking charging power house you Know uh about 9 years ago I parked at The very end over there with melan Falcon no no it was Optimus Prime yeah But also I've been there m the Falcon Like 9 years ago they had 150 KW fast Charger over there from me back then it Was called Grand contct you know they Didn't want to care too much so that's It but now rewind 10 years or 9 years After then this is it makes many Countries look really bad compared to Norway but this is the reality once you Have plenty of EVS then all the EVS they Can actually support this Infrastructure okay anyway it's too cold Man I'm going to get inside nice and Warm in

Here and here you see the software Numbers uh hardware h30 and software 170 One I don't know what all this means but Um this car was I mean I picked up for Marus about a month ago roughly so it's A Branch Banking new car and it should Be deliver with the latest software Right so um [Music] Yeah We are now at ion getting some premium Electricity wait are we charging faster Now versus Tesla Supercharger [Music] H but we definitely F charging faster Than before you know with the previous Id4 challenges we were peaking at only 135 KW so we get a nice jolt in the Beginning but uh does it mean that the Charging Cur has been changed so it's Not as flat as before H okay but you see this time I just want To see so if I didn't keep climate On like this is that going to overheat The battery H okay but this time we need to charge To only around 50% maybe even 48% we Drive North to the old turn around Point here roughly and then back again And then come back here one more time Yeah at and that's going to be the last Turning stop so we okay we have we have 1 hour and 12 minutes before midnight That's how we count so we at 8 hour and

12 minutes right now woo can we do this Within 10 hours I'm not sure probably Not but can we at least try to much or Slightly beat the oil record okay we Will see but you can see that the Consumption is a bit high high because It's cold as you see here it's half Dee Minus outside so yeah I need to bring The storm back jacket I have it back Here with some of the food but I'm show You so this jacket is usually okay for Me uh as long as it's it's let's say uh Warmer than 10° cus outside but now that It's zero and especially windy okay I Mean I can I can also sustain maybe 5° C If it's not too long or not windy but With this one then I can survive let's Say – 10° outside even if it's windy Because it also blocks the wind but if It's cold and that then I have another Jacket that I have packed down for now Uh in the storage uh somewhere but that One is really really warm I can show you Some other day but now oh look at this Wait wait wait wait wait look at this Speed Oo but not 185 KW hour per hour yeah I'm I'm not joking man look here it says Kilowatt hour per hour is kind of German Thing okay this is part where we make Fun of the sun yeah it even Rhymes so Man oh the agony going say I have to get A good thumbnail here like get get the Ion get get the car in the background

Like this right get a like oh the agony Of owning an EV it's freaking horrible Man look look Look we've been charting for 12 minutes And I'm almost good to go again look Look at this speed like 12 minutes what We went from 4% to 40% in 12 minutes do Do you know what it Means I I went to the gas station and I Didn't have time to eat or do I barely Had time to pee and I I need to take a [ __ ] soon but I can't do that because The car charges too fast you know I Bought this Id4 believing that I believe I believed In those lies from the Sun they they Claimed that electric cars takes forever To try it was perfect for me because I Like to dig around at gas station just Stay there for like an hour you know Like eat and waste my time just looking At some ice cream and [ __ ] and like I Was misled I thought that it would take At least one 1 hour to charge half Battery and then 2 hours to fully charge You know I was misled I was misled man Even though this is not My car it's Marcus be's car I just Borrow from him but the sun always Claims that I borrow those press Cars and also there there's so much Charging queue going on here look at Look at the cars like there we always Need to wait for hours to get a spot

Yeah yeah it's it's just the sun they're Not going to show you that there are Plenty of Ionity charges here Yeah not about yoke jokes aside I Calculated that I'm almost good to go Yeah I'm going to put away the camera Now and then we're going to disconnect This turning stop will be around 15 Minutes Long and then okay and then how much did That pay I mean how much does it cost um So if we look here um now I've done the Math before uh it usually cost around um In I mean even for Ionic it cost maybe Less than one Nook per per kilometer and Then the dinosaur juice cost more I Think I calculated it was roughly 1.5 Nuke per kilometer so driving dinosur Juice cost roughly 50% more per Kilometer than even fast charging this Electric Car What I want to spend money on cars I Can't spend money on the car if it's Electric it's too cheap to Run man I have more complaints about Electric car or more food for the sun Look look look we're doing just look how Fast electric cars Accelerates [ __ ] oh what the heck man it's so SN oh electric cars are too fast they Give me a headache when they

Accelerate man and also it go so fast That like suddenly I'm driving illegal Speeds which causes me to get speeding Tickets you know electric cars are Dangerous and they're too fast and it Makes me dizzy man this [ __ ] shouldn't Be legal we need slow accelerating Polluting fossil cars instead they're Way [Music] Better [Music] We're getting close to stung and we're Going to turn around soon over there and Look over here it's -2° C Outside [ __ ] so because of that the Consumption is freaking High look at That 301 wat hour per kilm oh [ __ ] oh oh [ __ ] the passport fell off okay whatever Okay let's turn around here we are back At a look here look here we have 4% what 4% battery right and look you can Actually preheat normally you can't Preheat if you have that low juice but The car is smart enough to figure out That you're plugged into a high power Charger and then it's fine to preheat But of course normally if you're not Plugged in you want to preserve the Battery so this is brilliant man Brilliant the way it works Now okay look at it oh yeah oh yeah oh Yeah 157 KW hour per hour so now we need To drive one more loop I need to okay

Let me just quickly show you guys so you See we at we almost at the H so um this Car under reports by half% which means That you have to drive to um 995 km or You can see here this that one doesn't Have decimal this one has decimal you're Going to look at this one so you guys Know the drill and then uh we just uh go North a little bit see has B we're going To head north a little bit and then we Head south and then we close to R and Then in the future we're going to 99 Close to here uh yes same so right That's it uh it's 8 8 yeah so um it Seems like it's going to be slightly Slower than 10 hours but uh how much Slower we will See oh man more food for the sun because Now I feel a bit lonely and I want some Other charging buddies I can hang out With and talk to but they aren't that Many there's one uh EC charging here but Uh uh the owner is not Here so Man Uh I I I get so lonely when I'm driving Electric cars see those guys they have Refueling buddies pumping buddies yeah Oh man All right this is it the final run so Yeah I'm just hugging the left lane Because I'm testing out the new asphal You can test the right lane also here The

Difference I believe we are in 21 in Wheels even but uh Sumer Tire still so Yeah let move over to left Lane yeah the car is still nice and Quiet even though we have headwind okay Anyway look at the clock 8:31 okay you Have to add 21 minutes sorry 12 minutes So that be comes uh 8 No 9 1 hour and 21 1 hour and 12 minutes 9 hours and 43 Minutes now Oh we're getting close to the 10 hour Mark and we have to drive roughly 100 More kilomet uhoh can be even match the Old time we will see we will See all right let's do the countdown 9990 9991 9992 993 9994 995 996 997 998 9999 99 1,000 time 98 It took exactly 10 and 1 half hours okay Let's go to data long term consumption 275 okay before correction yeah oh [ __ ] We have a 5 minute Improvement but this Was quite cold run you see it's even 1.5° now so it's considered winter run Oh yeah let's go home then all right We're back home now at the V1 house oh

Man will I miss this place um not sure Um but okay let's do the summary so it Was just 5 minutes faster than the other Id4 but I wanted to prove in this video That the id4 this latest and greatest One uh is faster because it charges Faster but it seems like it wasn't Charging that much fast because I'm Pretty sure that we hit 185 kilow on the Id5 the id5 did it in 10 hours that Wasn't summer though but okay so this Id4 GTX would spend I mean would need Around uh 10 hours and 20 minutes during Summer because it would spend 20 wat Hour per kilometer or 20 kilowatt hour Less for the total Challenge and that t Usually takes around 10 12 minutes but Um it was a little bit surprising that It didn't charge at 185 kwatt so that's A bit uh mystery so it seems like if you Want the fastest traveling car you have To get It5 or maybe SC en I don't remember how Fast SC ENC was starting but SC ENC did It in 1020 and I suspect that maybe the Enak also has the same uh charting curve As this one that's why enyak didn't do It in 10 hours or even faster than id5 So but yeah so at least we tested it and Um I had to find out more uh for example I'm going to email Volkswagen and ask Them how the algorithm works with u with The charging while using the heater you Know did they change something there or

Was it was it just because it was cold Today or what the heck happened because According to car scanner the the car did Not run AC compressor while we were Charging and kept the heater on so yeah We'll find out more about that one that Will be in a separate video it needs a Little bit deeper digging into the topic But I think that's going to be it for Now I hope you guys enjoy this video as Always thank you for watching and talk To you Later

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As a car dealer, you have an important role to play in the transition to zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs). That’s why the global automotive industry has come together under the Accelerating to Zero coalition, which aims to have all new cars and vans globally be ZEVs by 2040—and sooner in leading markets.

To make the most of your EV, you’ll need to plug it in to charge regularly. Fortunately, more and more public charging stations are popping up at shopping centers, parking garages, and workplaces across the country. And as the cost of EV batteries continue to fall, more people will be able to afford an EV without having to commit to installing a home charging system.

Electric cars offer a unique driving experience, with instant acceleration and pin-sharp handling. Plus, most models let you adjust how aggressively it accelerates and the speed at which its regenerative brakes slow down your car when you take your foot off the accelerator.

But there’s a lot more to consider when choosing an EV, beyond just the battery size and range. You’ll also want to think about how you’ll use the car and where you can recharge it, especially if you don’t own your home. Some EVs, known as plug-in hybrids, operate solely on electricity until their batteries are depleted, then switch to using gasoline to add more power. Others, like the Honda e, combine electricity and gasoline in a process called blended mode to provide the most energy efficiency.

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